Because Luke, Han and Leia are mostly background characters in the sequel trilogy, they don't receive a chance to shine in Ben's story. We know it’s clear that Rey and Kylo are unlikely to be twins, but a popular fan theory is that they’re secretly brother and sister. The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, Jacen was strong in the Force like his mother and uncle, Luke Skywalker. In the canonical 2016 novel Bloodline, set about six years before the events of The Force Awakens, Leia's secret that she is the daughter of Darth Vader is revealed and, immediately, she worries about Ben's reaction. Though Disney stripped down the expanded world of the Star Wars universe when they took control of Lucasfilm, fans of the franchise and its expansive decades-deep landscape still use the framework set up by the books and comics to theorize on what might happen next and who we might see appear in the current Star Wars canon. But in the comic book series, his name is Jacen Solo. How does Kylo Ren aka Ben Solo from The Force Awakens compare to Darth Caedus aka Jacen Solo from Star Wars Legends? Like Ben, Jacen was born after the Battle of Endor, and also joined Luke's Jedi academy. Kylo Ren could still very well be Jacen, or at least a Solo kid if they change his name. So, when it comes to the battle of the Solo kids, we have to give one to Jacen. Ben Solo was raised by a loving family. Like Rey, she was also a talented pilot. They’re members of the Skywalker family on Leia’s side. Though Jacen was the son of Han and Leia, he would be forever remembered as Sith Lord Darth Caedus rather than the name he was born with, just like The Force Awakens‘ very own Ben Solo. Jacen was determined to prevent that from happening. Jacen’s similarity to Kylo Ren is much closer. In the aftermath of The Rise of Skywalker, the Resistance celebrated the fall of Palpatine and, presumably, the supreme leader of the First Order, Kylo Ren. Sure, I guess that Rey and Kylo Ren having whatever storyline 'The Rise of Skywalker' was is a thing but also Jaina and Jacen Solo are better. Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. He had a strong support system, and was taught the ways of the light side. ... Kylo Ren is not a bad character, he’s a bad person. He is also known as Darth Caedus and gets his ability to maniupulate the force from Leia. Reply. It would explain Han’s immediate attempt to connect with and create a life with Rey. Everything after Return of the Jedi has been erased. RELATED: REPORT: Disney Developing Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic Television Show. The most likely theory is that Han and Leia’s other child was thought to be dead after the massacre of the Knights of Ren, causing Luke’s self-imposed exile and the breakdown of Leia and Han’s relationship, a couple so devastated by that loss that they refuse to even mention it. Upon seeing his uncle standing over him, ready to strike, Ben fights back. That conflict is magnified by Luke's internal struggling from killing Lumiya, whom he had believed killed Mara Jade. Well, we do have things such as Spider Pig and what not lol. Jump to navigation Jump to search. Additionally, Jacen had been a captive of the Yuuzhan Vong, who placed him in a device called the Embrace of Pain, which continuously stimulated his pain receptors, and served as his prison for a year. Could it be that the memories unleashed by the Lightsaber were in fact Rey’s rather than Luke’s? Similarly, Jacen Solo has his own weakness: his daughter. In Legends, Caedus' death ultimately brought peace to the galaxy, an idea that inspired his turn to the Dark Side in the first place. STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. Before Disney purchased Lucasfilm in 2012, and subsequently streamlined Star Wars continuity, there was the Expanded Universe, the umbrella term for any officially licensed material outside of the films, including novels, television series, video games and comic books. Like Jacen, and their grandfather before them, that display of humanity allowed him to die as Ben Solo, not as Kylo Ren. Ben’s relationship with Leia and Han when he was growing up is unknown, though he came to resent his father. Posted on Tuesday, November 14th, 2017 by Rosie Knight. Jaina and Jacen were a huge part of the EU, first appearing in Timothy Zahn’s The Last Command in ’93. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. In The Rise of Skywalker, Ben Solo couldn't save his mother, but he used his final moments to save Rey, someone he had repeatedly caused harm to. Asadora! Like Jacen, and their grandfather before them, that display of humanity allowed him to die as Ben Solo, not as Kylo Ren. So could he have secretly saved his younger sister who was training alongside him? Necronmon (Topic Creator) 2 years ago #11. Logo Concept by: Illumination Ink. She is also a huge Star Wars and DC Comics fan. Not only did Caedus kill Luke's wife, Mara Jade, he also tried to turn his son to the Dark Side. Affiliate links used when available. They went from being good pilots to flying in perfect synchronicity due to mind melds. KEEP READING: Star Wars: Mark Hamill Reacts to Claim Harrison Ford Kissed Him On Set. However, Dinn overheard and urged Jacen against believing Lumiya. Jacen … Star Wars is steeped in wildly esoteric lore. Godzilla vs. Kong Theory: The REAL Villain Is WAY Deadlier. Like Ben Solo, he fell completely to the Dark Side by killing a family member. He and his twin sister, Jaina, were born five years after Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, and because the New Republic was under attack by the forces of the Empire, the twins were raised in hideaways, first on New Alderaan and then on the planet Anoth under the guidance of Leia's trusted aide, Winter. Psychologically, Jacen Solo is a very interesting character especially thanks to Matthew Stover’s novel “Traitor”. This is a completely new timeline. All of the Jedi in old EU became more and more powerful as time went by. Leia was unable to spend as much time with her son as possible, as she was assigned to the position as a senator of the New Republic, while Han was unable to stay in one place for very long.When he was twenty-three years old, Ben was sent to study alongside other Jedi students, being instructed and led by his maternal uncle, Jedi Master Luke Skywalker. Vol. After the war, Jacen traveled the galaxy and learned from different Force users. In Legends, Jacen and Luke's struggle has more weight. While both stories have an inherent element of tragedy, Ben Solo's turn and redemption lack the emotional depth of Jacen's. He deactivated his lightsaber, and used his final moments to warn his wife and daughter to flee to safety. As suspected by many fans, Kylo Ren is the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa - and was originally named Ben. Ren is haunted by the conflict between the light and dark within him. Also, he understood his Force sensitivity at a young age. Two words, Power Creep. We all know that Kylo has struggled to truly commit to the Dark Side, often tempted back to the Light. He embarked on a mission with Ben Skywalker and Nelani Dinn, and encountered a woman who reveals herself to Jacen as Lumiya, the Dark Lady of the Sith. Only, instead of killing his father, he killed his aunt, Mara Jade. Predictable and his descent into the darkside was not convincingly written IMO. Jacen and Ben have colorful family histories in their timelines. In addition, Caedus' "irredeemable act of murder" made me hate him a lot more than Kylo's. And much like how the trailers for The Last Jedi suggest a flirtation with the dark side for Rey, Jaina was also perilously close to the Dark Side after the death of her younger brother. Over the decades, the twins were a part of many an important storyline in the EU, but it’s their overriding arcs and eventual fates which could really help us discover the truth about Rey and Kylo. 0. Kylo Ren is a fictional character and a major antagonist in the Star Wars franchise. Ever since the first The Force Awakens rumors started creeping around the internet, there were rumblings that the film might include two of the expanded universe’s most pivotal characters: Jaina and Jacen Solo. Una volta, egli era un promettente studente del Maestro Jedi Luke Skywalker, l'ex Ben Solo non era né un Jedi né un Sith, ma un prodotto degli insegnamenti di entrambi gli ordini. Like Rey and Kylo's fight in The Force Awakens, Caedus was faced with an opponent who employed an unfamiliar fighting style and was at a disadvantage due to his injuries. It's no surprise the two share many similar story beats, but now that Kylo Ren's story is over with The Rise of Skywalker, it raises the question of which character had the stronger arc. i can almost hear you scream . Once Ben switched to darkness, he turned on his classmates, becoming Kylo Ren and destroying everything Luke built. Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. RELATED: Star Wars: What Happened to the New Jedi Order? Why do you ask? In that case, it would be safe to say that Rey was likely training under Luke alongside Kylo as young child before she was dropped off on Jakku. From the first moment that it was revealed that Kylo Ren was in fact Ben Solo, Han and Leia’s estranged son, EU fans were seeing reflections of the Solo’s other de-canonised first son, Jacen. Luke encountered Caedus torturing Ben in the Embrace of Pain, leading to a duel between the two. Luke was fully prepared to kill his nephew, but he feared that by striking down Caedus in anger, he would fall to the Dark Side himself. Kylo Ren fue objeto de visiones de la Fuerza incluso antes de nacer. What We Can Learn About Kylo Ren and Rey From Jaina and Jacen Solo, The Morning Watch: ‘Outside the Wire’ VFX Breakdown, The Cinematography of Genndy Tartakovsky & More, An Ode to Kit Fisto: Bad in the ‘Star Wars’ Films, but Pretty Good Everywhere Else, Cool Stuff: ‘The Mandalorian’ Dark Troopers Are Activated as a New Hot Toys Figure, Cool Stuff: New ‘Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker’ Funko POPs Include Ben Solo, All-The-Jedi Rey & More. If this is the case, we could still see Rey eventually redeemed just like Jaina was in the EU books, ready to save the galaxy and defeat her evil brother. By the time of The Force Awakens, Kylo Ren is roughly 30 years old, well into his ways as a pseudo-Sith apprentice. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Jacen served as a Jedi Knight for years, but the Yuuzhan Vong War changed everything. Plus Chewie was dead before Jacen became Caedus but Chewie's alive when Kylo Ren became a sith. Supplemental material provides a brief look into Ben's childhood. Star Wars: Jacen Solo Vs Kylo Ren, Who Had the Better Arc? Follow 434. For other uses, see Kylo. Jacen Solo will never follow that same path, but he nevertheless served as inspiration for Kylo Ren. They have similar story beats, although Jacen's is far more defined. Kylo, at least, was a great source of unintentional humor. Star Wars: Why Did Maul Try to Run Down Anakin in The Phantom Menace? Jacen’s life differed than Ben’s. If you’re remaining spoiler-free, turn back now. He is briefly tempted to kill his nephew, but ultimately feels shame in that fleeting thought. In terms of Kylo Ren, Abrams said his mask is meant to be a nod to Darth Vader and that the character is well aware of what came before him, which is "very much a part of the story of the film." Of note is also the fact that in the Expanded Universe, Jacen Solo is the child of Han and Leia. That became Ben 'Kylo Ren' Solo in the new trilogy, but it's hardly a coincidence that Hera's child has the same unique name. During the final part of Zahn’s trilogy, Leia finally gave birth to to the twins on Coruscant. In all of the possible futures he saw, the only time that was prevented was when Dinn died. It's possible Vader's helmet has a similar effect on Ben that Anakin's lightsaber had on Luke, calling out to him (hence, his apparent worship of it). Ben Solo was born roughly a year after the Battle of Endor. Yep. Ben Solo is able to kill his father but not his mother; in The Last Jedi, he is unable to fire on Leia's ship. Jagged Fel/Jaina Solo (34) Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren (25) Anakin Solo/Tahiri Veila (17) Kylo Ren/Rey (17) Kyp Durron/Jaina Solo (14) Anakin Solo & Jacen Solo & Jaina Solo (13) Padmé Amidala/Anakin Skywalker (10) Exclude Additional Tags Alternate Universe (44) Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence (37) Angst (35) Romance (32) Fluff (22) Family (18) Poco después de la batalla de la Fortaleza Vader, el Lord Sith Darth Vader, el personaje Sith del famoso Caballero Jedi Anakin Skywalker, escuchó la voz de Ren diciendo que era hora de «dejar morir el pasado» mientras mataba las ilusiones … Jacen Solo wins easily. mascot-6 Subscribe Login As he left to save her, his twin sister Jaina stabbed him in the abdomen. 1 Depicts a Vibrant Past... and an Already-Dated Future? Reply. Ah well, I suppose different fanfiction appeals to others. Jacen Solo was the hero of the war, defeating the leadership of the Vong and ending the conflict. A one-stop shop for all things video games. Jaina Solo was a strong Jedi and a powerful force of good in the Galaxy, taking on talents from her mother and father, both Force sensitive and a dab hand at fixing anything of the mechanical variety. Many of his allies, including Chewbacca and his brother, Anakin Solo, were killed. Ben Solo and Jacen Solo's similarities run deeper than merely being the "bad seed" child of Han and Leia. After the destruction of Luke's Jedi academy, Kylo Ren joins the First Order. still revealing information about this part of Ben's past. That conflict tore the galaxy apart, resulting in the death of trillions, devastating both the New Republic and the Jedi Order. Though it would be slightly complex for the filmmakers to explain, it wouldn’t be impossible. Star Wars: How Jacen Solo Created the Blueprint for Kylo Ren Star Wars Legends’ Expanded Universe introduced young Jacen Solo, whose rise and fall as Darth … From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. She explained that Jacen could use the Dark Side and not be corrupted by it, and bring peace to the galaxy. When the moffs of the Imperial Remnant crafted a nano weapon that would target his wife and her people, Caedus feared for his daughter's life. There's much more of a finality to Jacen's arc, bittersweet as it is. Kylo Ren. He's characterized by his hunger for power, and motivated by his hate and anger. Additionally, Rey and the other characters who fight Kylo Ren have no significant bond to the boy he was before. Although Marvel's The Rise of Kylo Ren comic is still revealing information about this part of Ben's past, we still have some information about him before he became Kylo Ren. Ben Solo Kylo Ren; Star Wars character: Adam Driver as Kylo Ren in Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) First appearance: The Force Awakens (2015) Last appearance: He trained with his uncle Luke and his new class of Jedi, but at about age 23, Ben succumbed to the Dark Side. Stover’s Star Wars stories generally tend to get quite far on the psychologising side, and “Traitor” doesn’t Jacen’s fall to … In the world of the expanded universe, everyone’s favorite smuggler and the galaxy’s most beloved princess had three beautiful bouncing babies. Jacen Solo story is great in everything before LOTF. In Legends, Caedus' death ultimately brought peace to the galaxy, an idea that inspired his turn to the Dark Side in the first place. Born as Ben Solo to Han Solo and Leia Organa, he grew up in the middle of his parent's clustered lives. However, his victory came at a price. Wiki Points ... Jacen can solo with 1 arm cut off and having been stabbed with a lightsaber before hand The closets to a official book of Kylo Ren VS Jacen Solo we might get. Tenel Ka Djo/Jacen Solo (87) Leia Organa/Han Solo (79) Mara Jade/Luke Skywalker (59) Jagged Fel/Jaina Solo (34) Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren (26) Anakin Solo/Tahiri Veila (17) Kylo Ren/Rey (17) Kyp Durron/Jaina Solo (15) Anakin Solo & Jacen Solo & Jaina Solo (12) Padmé Amidala/Anakin Skywalker (10) Exclude Additional Tags Alternate Universe (45) RELATED: Star Wars Confirms the Galaxy's Most Dangerous Lightsaber. In the Expanded Universe Jacen and Jaina Solo are born to Leia and Han on Coruscant in 9 ABY so if we do a bit of maths (34 ABY minus 9 ABY) we … Though the pair never materialized, their story may well be able to give us insight into the future of another pair in the new trilogy: Rey and Kylo Ren. Many fervent Star Wars observers have suggested that Rey might be on the wrong path, spurred on by Luke’s apparent dismissal of her. User Info: Necronmon. So, it's likely that a big part of Ben's story involves an identity crisis over that revelation, coupled with the impact of his repeated temptation by Snoke. 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Those children were twins, Jaina and Jacen, and their younger brother, Anakin. As you all know Kylo Ren is the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, just like in the comic book series they had a child who turned to the Dark Side after tragic events occurred in his life. Upon his return, he adopted a more detached view of life and death, reasoning that sacrifices had to be made for the greater good. Ben and Jacen both have stories that heavily feature a conflict with Luke Skywalker. Jacen reasoned that Luke must live for the greater good, and, thus, struck down Dinn and began his Sith apprenticeship. The familial elements in Jacen's arc are also more prominent, allowing for some intriguing drama. Forum Posts. Snoke's manipulation seems to revolve around the promise of power, acceptance and the ability for Ben to choose his own path rather than be overshadowed by his famous family. He's fun to mock, and the "Emo Kylo Ren" Twitter account was pretty much the only good thing to come out of the ST for me. Privacy Policy / Cookie Policy. This is a significant moment for Luke and Ben, placing them on their respective paths. In the aftermath of The Rise of Skywalker, the Resistance celebrated the fall of Palpatine and, presumably, the supreme leader of the First Order, Kylo Ren. Kylo’s descent into the Dark Side seems to echo that of Jacen. That's somewhat similar to The Rise of Skywalker's final confrontation between Kylo and Rey, where, in a moment of concern for his mother, Ben's defenses fall, allowing Rey to stab him in the abdomen. Though they now existed in the universe, it wasn’t until 1995’s Young Jedi Knights series when the twins truly came to prominence, starring in 14 titles centered around their adventures and experiences at Luke’s Jedi academy. Star Wars: What Happened to the New Jedi Order? Jaina and Jacen Solo vs Rey and Kylo Ren God-EmperorofMankind2. KEEP READING: Star Wars: How Heir to the Empire Brought the Thrawn Trilogy to Comics He was replacing the daughter he’d lost so many years ago. Like Kylo Ren, he embraced a new identity: Darth Caedus. RELATED: Star Wars Reveals What Kylo Ren Hates Most -and It's NOT Luke. All names, trademarks and images are copyright their respective owners. In The Last Jedi, Luke is petrified by Ben's darkness. Directed and co-written by J.J. Abrams, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker stars Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Lupita Nyong' o, Domhnall Gleeson, Kelly Marie Tran, Joonas Suotamo, Billie Lourd, Keri Russell, Anthony Daniels, Mark Hamill, Billy Dee Williams, and Carrie Fisher, with Naomi Ackie and Richard E. Grant. This post contains observations taken from the trailers for Star Wars: The Last Jedi. He didn’t have a familial bond with his parents early in life, having been raised by a nanny. Part of that is because of the benefit that long-form storytelling. In The Force Awakens, it’s revealed that Kylo was being trained by his uncle who was preparing a “new generation of Jedi.” Though they never mention that Rey was being trained by Luke, or even acknowledge her background, we do see Luke and the Knights of Ren during her Force vision. Ben Solo/Kylo and the Sequels as a whole were poorly written overall. Jacen sought out possible futures through the Force, and encountered a vision of himself fighting Luke and killing him while the galaxy remained at war. Caedus begged his sister during their duel to help his daughter, and passed on an opportunity to strike down Jaina, realizing it would waste precious time to save his daughter. He was trained by his legendary uncle to become a famed Jedi warrior and hero of the Galactic Empire, only to betray his family and friends when he turned to the Dark Side like his grandfather, Darth Vader, in a twisted attempt to bring order to the splintered sects of the Galaxy. The fact that Kylo and Rey’s stories so heavily reflect the Solo twins has constantly fuel the fan theory flames. Those stories were rebranded in 2014 as Star Wars Legends and deemed no longer part of canon, although some elements and characters -- perhaps most notably Thrawn -- have since made their way back into continuity. Jacen has been noted as an influence for Kylo Ren , the canonical son of Han and Leia and villain of the Star Wars sequel trilogy , and Jacen Syndulla , the canonical son of Kanan Jarrus and Hera Syndulla from the epilogue series finale of Star Wars … wishing that you could shine like this . Web design by Pro Blog Design. The warring factions had become united against Caedus and, following his death, made a peace settlement. He grew up with feelings of resentment toward his parents, and inherited the Force sensitivity of the Skywalkers. At that moment, Jaina and Jacen's psychic bond returned, signifying that he died as Jacen rather than as Caedus. The troubled Solo boy felt … The vision of the man on the throne that Jacen sought to prevent was replaced by one of his daughter, Allana, sitting atop a white throne as a Jedi Queen. In the original books, Jaina and Jacen trained under Luke at his Jedi Praxeum on Yavin 4 – after being sent away by their parents just like Kylo – as part of a new era of Jedi following the eradication of the legendary warriors during the Empire’s purge. He began to have visions of a dark man sitting on a throne, casting the galaxy into another age of suffering. From the first moment that it was revealed that Kylo Ren was in fact Ben Solo, Han and Leia’s estranged son, EU fans were seeing reflections of the Solo’s other de-canonised first son, Jacen. That not only describes Adam … Jaina had unique training, studying under the tutelage of both Boba Fett and Luke at different points of her life. Although deleted from canon, the characters of Jaina and Jacen Solo may say a lot about what we can expect to see from Kylo Ren and Rey. Jacen Solo and Kylo Ren have a lot in common – and intentionally so – but which of Han and Leia's bad seeds has the better story arc in Star Wars? Once he sees Han Solo again, he chooses to fully embrace the Dark Side by murdering his father. /Featured Stories Sidebar, Features, LucasFilm, Sci-Fi, Sequels, Star-Wars, The Quarantine Stream: ‘Bad Genius’ is a High School Heist Thriller That’s Way More Stylish Than It Has Any Right To Be, ‘The Little Things’ Review: The Dream of the ’90s is Alive in This Predictable Serial Killer Thriller, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Wants to Redefine How We Talk About “Strong Female Characters”, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ is About Finding Trust in a Broken World, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Directors and Screenwriter on the Melting Pot of Southeast Asian Influences in the New Disney Film [Interview], The ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Team Appreciates Your Comparisons to ‘Avatar: The Last Airbender’, Copyright © 2005-2019 /Film. A secret Sith apprentice named Vergere taught Jacen how to survive, but unknown to him, the very lessons that kept him alive were his introductions to the Sith. Batman: What Live-Action Incarnations Can Learn from Soul of the Dragon, Thor: Love and Thunder Set Photos Tease an Alien World. When they w… From what we can tell, he was a happy child who wanted to be a pilot like his father, although he struggled with maintaining the darkness within him, which manifested as resentment of his family. The latter's torture, subtle seduction and flawed motivation provide a layered approach to the character and his fall. He hunts for Luke, who had gone into hiding, but despite finally being able to choose his own path, he doesn't feel fulfilled. Jacen's other familial connections of note to his native continuity include being the brother of Jaina Solo and Anakin Solo as well as the cousin of Ben Skywalker. Lia is an English Literature Major who loves all things X-Men –and most importantly, Cyclops. Meanwhile, characters like Jaina Solo and Ben Skywalker do have that connection to Jacen, adding more emotion to the story. i’m only human Click the button below to start this article in quick view. Page 1 of 3: 1: 2 3 > Jarvus: 11.08.2015 , 10:09 AM | #1: Quote. While Kylo Ren was his own character with alternate motivations and a very different familial relationship, the Jacen Solo stories clearly laid the foundation for Ben Solo's rise, fall and ultimate redemption. Kylo Ren, un maschio umano sensibile alla Forza, è stato il Leader Supremo del Primo Ordine e Maestro dei Cavalieri di Ren durante l'era della Resistenza. Disney's Raya and the Last Dragon Story Trailer Reveals Awkwafina's Dragon, Godzilla Vs. 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